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:It neither available at nor at my local Council shop. Have you seen confirmation that the award is still available from the International Department? [[User:BartHumphries|BartHumphries]] 21:24, February 16, 2018 (EST)
:It neither available at nor at my local Council shop. Have you seen confirmation that the award is still available from the International Department? [[User:BartHumphries|BartHumphries]] 21:24, February 16, 2018 (EST)
== User BartHumphries has been promoted to Bureaucrat status. ==
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'''''User [[User:BartHumphries|BartHumphries]]''''' has been promoted to '''[[Bureaucrat]]''' status. &mdash;'''''[[User:RWSmith|RWSmith]]''''' <small>''[[MeritBadgeDotOrg:Bureaucrat|(Bureaucrat)]]''</small>, 14:48, April 2, 2018 (EDT)

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Old requirements need to remain accessible


I noticed you moved the old requirements out of the Cub Scout ranks. These should remain accessible as there is no requirement to transition on June 1, the requirement is "June 1". . . "or later if they do not run a year-round program" (per the BSA FAQ).

Many Pack's run with the school year and in many places the school year runs into June. For example, my Pack year won't end until the 13th of June, some may go until nearly the end of June or beyond depending on their school year. We won't change to the new requirements until that date.

I would do something with this myself but I just came here for quick check of the requirements and I'm frequently confused by where they transclude from and will have to spend more time than I have right now looking for them.

BTW, your 'leave me a message' button does not work, it links to your old talk page which is not registered to you anymore.--Doug 17:36, June 7, 2015 (EDT)

Thanks, I'll be able to fix that on Wednesday, probably. I'm at Scout camp now, bad internet. Edit: Doug, you have admin privileges, so you have the right to change them. Just look at the regular page like Wolf Scout and at the bottom of the requirements section it says something like (and, forgive me, this is from memory): "Only an administrator can edit these requirements..." and the word edit is underlined and a link. Click on it and it will take you to the appropriate edit page. BartHumphries 23:49, June 7, 2015 (EDT)

Reply requested

Hi Bart! Thanks for leaving a note on User talk:GoingBatty. I replied there, but wasn't sure you were watching it. Could you please reply to my questions there? Thanks! GoingBatty 20:19, November 1, 2015 (EST)

Replied there. BartHumphries 03:55, November 3, 2015 (EST)

Thanks for making all the changes I requested. Keep up the great work! GoingBatty 11:01, November 4, 2015 (EST)

Removal of old Webelos Acitvity Pins

Bart, My Webelos are currently using the old program to complete as all current Webelos 2 Scouts can elect to do. Can we please roll back the Webelos pages until at least March when they truly will no longer be relevant & active. I'm going to work on compiling the old program requirements across all ranks for reference, but again, I don't think the Webelos stuff should go until the current cycle is complete as this was offered by BSA and many W2 dens directly reference the wiki here.

Thanks. Dpawlak 10:55, November 17, 2015 (EST)

You're right, boys who earned the Webelos rank before June 1, 2015 and who are now moving to the Arrow of Light rank may continue earning the old activity pins. Here's a link to the older version of the page: I don't believe we need a compilation of the old awards, given that there are, at most, only a few more months that boys may earn them, but feel free to work on that if you'd like. I think time might be better spent making guides and fast plans for the new adventures, since we don't have any yet. We also have no real guidelines or suggestions as to how to teach or learn the new adventures, and links to other websites would probably also be really useful.
I really don't think just linking to the old version is sufficient. Many users will not know how to find that. The page for Arrow of Light is similarly jumping the gun on removing the old requirements. I'm glad to roll the pages back if you'd like, but felt it might be wiser for you to do it--it seems you made a few other edits in between. This really seems the proper course for now, unless you have another suggestion for making the "still current" requirements accessible. Dpawlak 13:00, November 17, 2015 (EST)
How's Arrow of Light award? None of the previous Tiger/Wolf/Bear badges are valid, all boys of those ages must use the new requirements. BartHumphries 03:04, November 18, 2015 (EST)
That works nicely. Cheers, mate. Dpawlak 13:16, November 18, 2015 (EST)
After poking around a bit, I decided to dive in and do some tidying up. I added some links to the old pins & worksheets so people can find them, and have them noted so they can be removed next March when those items are truly deprecated. I've watched those pages to remind myself to revisit them at that time. Dpawlak 17:22, November 18, 2015 (EST)
Please remember, only boys who already earned their Webelos badge may still earn those. They're not appropriate for Wolf, Bear, or boys who are working on their Webelos badge. :) BartHumphries 18:21, November 18, 2015 (EST)

What's the right way to resolve redlink templates?

Hi Bart! There are many pages that transclude the redlink Template:CSA See also and many pages that transclude the redlink Template:Cub Scout Adventures navbox (e.g. Webelos Adventure: Webelos Walkabout). What's the right way to resolve this issue? Thanks! GoingBatty 12:18, March 21, 2016 (EDT)

Either remove the link from each page that it appears on, or create the template. Edit: I just created a navbox. I anticipated that there might be something which would be nice to link to from all Cub Scout adventure pages in the "See also" category. So I included that when creating the pages so that it would be less work to add it in down the road. :) BartHumphries 15:38, March 21, 2016 (EDT)

Scout Badge

This image, Image:BoyScout2016.png should go on that page. evrik 12:17, July 20, 2016 (EDT)

Done, thank you! :) BartHumphries 13:02, July 20, 2016 (EDT)

Rank pins

How can I add these images to the corresponding rank pages?

Thanks! evrik 13:04, July 20, 2016 (EDT)

Just add the image the same way you normally would. Where on the page are you planning on putting them? BartHumphries 13:42, July 20, 2016 (EDT)
The pages were locked to me until a few minutes ago. I'll give it a try later. evrik 14:12, July 20, 2016 (EDT)
Did it work? :) BartHumphries 16:19, April 15, 2017 (EDT)

Webelos/AoL elective Castaway/Getaway name did not change - rollback request

Bart, Hello. Can you please rollback the move/rename of the Webelos/AoL Adventure Castaway/Getaway. At one point, BSA had in a document outlining the program update that the name of the adventure was changing from Castaway to Getaway, but that was subsequently learned to be erroneously included. The adventure's name is Castaway as confirmed by both the official Addendum to Program published in December, 2016, and by Scoutbook which has documented that the adventure's name is unchanged.

Thanks! Dan Pawlak

Done, I think I got it everywhere. Thanks! :) BartHumphries 16:20, April 15, 2017 (EDT)

Youth Protection only good for one year?

I saw changes made on Oct. 10, 2017 to the youth protection page that say that youth protection training is only good for one year rather than two years. While I have heard (but don't know) that some councils have adopted that policy, I have not been able to find anything from the National Office that states that the national policy has changed from requiring YPT every two years. I didn't spot any citation on the YP page for it either (maybe I missed it?). Any chance you could add a citation referring to the communication from the National Office that confirms that change? Thanks. nicouds 19:03, November 4, 2017 (EDT)

I emailed National and asked about it. Apparently it's two years, although some councils now require every year. BartHumphries 18:29, November 10, 2017 (EST)

National Honor Patrol Award

I've created a worksheet to help my patrol leaders track their progress toward earning the National Honor Patrol Award. I wouls love to share it with everyone who visits your site. How can I send it to you? -Howarthe 18:39, December 16, 2017 (EST)

Sent, received, uploaded. Feel free to edit the name or position/location of them as appropriate. :) BartHumphries 15:26, December 18, 2017 (EST)


The LDS Church made their announcement on May 11, 2017 that they would drop out of Varsity and Venturing. The VarsityDiscontinued templates states "In March 2017". nicouds 19:50, February 10, 2018 (EST)

Thanks, fixed! :) BartHumphries 22:58, February 10, 2018 (EST)

Small Boat Handler

It looks like there are two pages Small Boat Handler and Small Boat Handler Course with content that appears to be intended to be the same (not withstanding your update today to Small Boat Handler. Perhaps there should be one page for the Small Boat Handler award and one for the course, although it sounds like completing the course earns one the award. There is also a detailed document for the Small Boat Handler Bar. Also, according to the Small-Boat Handler Course Outline document (dated 9/6/16), there is an additional "Paddlecraft" portion in the new Boat Handling Section (Section Three) and there is a NOTE at the end. nicouds 18:24, February 12, 2018 (EST)

Thanks -- I redirected the Course page to the Small Boat Handler page, updated that page, and added an image. Someone should make it into a proper award page. ;) BartHumphries 19:12, February 12, 2018 (EST)

International Spirit Award

Regarding your Nov. 9, 2017 change to the International Spirit Award to note that it is a discontinued award, it is still shown on ( The requirements were updated in 2015 and the application for the award was last modified in October 2017. does not note that it is discontinued. Is this a mistake or is there an indication elsewhere to validate that it is discontinued? I updated the requirements template to the latest before I noticed that the award was marked "discontinued". — nicouds 16:41, February 16, 2018 (EST)

It neither available at nor at my local Council shop. Have you seen confirmation that the award is still available from the International Department? BartHumphries 21:24, February 16, 2018 (EST)

User BartHumphries has been promoted to Bureaucrat status.

New Bureaucrat: BartHumphries

User BartHumphries has been promoted to Bureaucrat status. —RWSmith (Bureaucrat), 14:48, April 2, 2018 (EDT)

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