Talk:Cub Scout Horseback Riding

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Sports Pin requirements

The requirements for the Horseback Riding sports pin are listed incorrectly. The correct requirements are:

1. Learn about three famous horses. Explain why these horses were well-known.
2. Using pictures of these different animals, explain to your den or family the difference between a horse, pony, mule, and donkey.
3. Explain how a horse is measured and what a “hand” equals when measuring a horse.
4. Using a picture of a horse, point out the following main parts of a horse: forehead, muzzle, mane, withers, point of hip, knee, hoof, and root of tail.
5. Describe three different breeds of horses and explain what special feature makes each breed different from other breeds.
6. Using photos or pictures you have drawn, explain to your den or family at least three different ways that horses can help us.
7. Name five things that are healthy for a horse to eat.
8. Tell why it is important to wear an approved riding helmet when you go horseback riding.
9. Take a photo or draw a picture of the type of saddle you used during the horseback ride you took to earn the belt loop.
10. With your parent or adult partner, visit a veterinarian who cares for horses and large animals. Write the answers to three questions you ask him or her.
11. Spend at least 15 minutes before and after your ride getting to know your horse by talking calmly to it and stroking it slowly.
12. Go on a supervised horseback ride for at least 30 minutes. Be sure to wear a riding helmet. Show that you can safely mount and dismount the horse.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Timhood (talkcontribs) March 18, 2010. (Please, sign and date your posts on talk pages.)

Fixed. —RWSmith (Bureaucrat), 19:52, July 21, 2010 (EDT)

Tiger Cubs

Tiger Cubs are NOT authorized to horseback ride. http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/ageguides.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by BigJosh (talkcontribs) July 20, 2010. (Please, sign and date your posts on talk pages.)

The [age-appropriate] guidelines you referenced above are from the 2007 printing of the "Guide To Safe Scouting" (G2SS). While the age-appropriate guidelines attachment has not changed since 2007, still though, we should not discount the fact that Horseback Riding was added to the Cub Scout program in 2009. But, of critical importance (and often missed or simply ignored), is the fact that the age-appropriate guidelines attachment in the G2SS applies specifically to "unit" activities... e.g., pack, not family, school, community, etc.
Maybe a better reference would be (also found in the current G2SS):
"Horseback riding activities are limited to Wolf Cub Scouts and older members."
Bear in mind though, "activities" here still means Scouting activities.
On the other hand, the requirements for the Cub Scout Horseback Riding pin & belt loop plainly states:
"Tiger Cubs, Cub Scouts, and Webelos Scouts may complete requirements in a family, den, pack, school, or community environment. Tiger Cubs must work with their parents or adult partners."
Now, without due consideration, this may be viewed as conflicting guidance; but, it is not. Simply put...
While the G2SS does, in fact, limit horseback riding at Scouting functions to Wolf Cub Scouts and older members, that does not preclude Tiger Cub Scouts from earning the Cub Scout Horseback Riding pin & belt loop —with their parent/adult partner present— in some other venue.
All that being said, I think it would be best to add something to the article page to this effect, which I will be happy to do. Thanks, BigJosh, for bringing this up. —RWSmith (Bureaucrat), 19:52, July 21, 2010 (EDT)
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